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SJDD by RednBlackSalamander SJDD by RednBlackSalamander
The term "social justice warrior" should be a badge of honor, but it's been defiled by the endless internet war raging between the insufferable fringes of tumblr and reddit.

And no, I am NOT saying both sides are the same here; obviously the actual bigots are worse. But let's not forget that we have to be GOOD, and not just better than them.
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kyrtuck Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
He clearly was talking about his pussy cat :P

Now, who wants to get some tomatoes and melons?
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Worldsmixer1234 Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd probably be hesitant at first because I'm a minor and probably call my parents first, but I wouldn't totally blow the people off like that.
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OzzieScribbler Featured By Owner Edited Jan 29, 2015  Professional General Artist
Considering your other comics regarding feminism/social justice are very much on point, I'm disappointed with this one. It reeks of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy:, as in the joke here relies on notion that blogging about social issues isn't "real" feminism and somehow is mutually exclusive with going on protest marches (which is supposedly the "true" feminism and inherently better, because...?).

The whole idea of accusing people of so-called slacktivism seems to exist only to deny legitimacy of the new platforms to spread the activist ideas. The Internet provides us with a perfect way to educate about and discuss the social problems and build new communities around it. I sincerely wouldn't even know half of what I so about issues of privilege if I did not learn them on Tumblr in the last three years and I've seen many people share similar experience.

That's not saying that all SJ-oriented communities and people in them are perfect. I've seen a lot of bloggers taking some agendas ridiculously far (like the idea that all white people should be banned from having any sort of tattoos, because that's supposedly always cultural appropriation, WTF?!).
But equating the whole bigger community to some oversensitive extremes is unfair, and an extreme in its own right. This "social justice dodger" character here is a classic strawman and doesn't portray any real problematic attitudes, just an unflattering approximation constructed to (for some reason) make protesters with signs look like the only legitimate activists.
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m4xm0u53 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
As Bigal2k6 calls them Slacktivists.
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JadedSnake Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2014
Maybe we can come up with a term for the good guys instead of taking a negatively associated term and trying to decouple it from its current affiliation and make it good?
Because this sounds like an awfull lot of effort for something that probably wont work.
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SteamEngineCombust Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This is perfect. 
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TheDarkGallade Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I hate fake feminists like that
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aaaaceace Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014
Don't you just hate people that spend all their time complaining about the world rather than actually doing anything, and when they are asked to do something they come with excuses. By the way do you know of any protest happening in the Massachusetts area, just nothing between Monday through Sunday because I have shit to do.

(Seriously if you know of any groups or organisations in Massachusetts that need help I would appreciate it.)  
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2014  Hobbyist
Agreed , i may not identFy as a Feminist and see both the MRA's and Feminists as a waste of time and see myself as a Egalitarian but yeah you should do something about these so called "Social Justice Warriors " that is undermining real Feminist issues.
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RednBlackSalamander Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Your profile says you're an anarchist. Sorry buddy, but it's impossible to be an anarchist and not a feminist.
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist
Hold on a minute, i fight for all rights, not just one rights and i'm a bit closer to Socialist than Anarchist but again why do i have have to identify myself as a Feminist ?We basically agree with everything else here . Is being an Egalitarian not good enough  for you?
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RednBlackSalamander Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The whole point of anarchism is the elimination of hierarchies, right? So in a society like we have now, where women are obviously treated worse than men, true egalitarianism requires that women's issues deserve more attention and resources at the moment. That doesn't mean ignoring men, it just means recognizing that gender issues and discrimination are not distributed equally between men and women.
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014  Hobbyist
Yeah and the best way too do that is to really fight for both sexes and that's exactly what i think in my opinon we need to drop the pointlessly divisive titles of WRM  or MRA'S and just be for Egalitarians. As you mentioned here within this comic, the people who call themselves  "Feminists"  are really just as bad as the MRA extremists you also rightfully mock.

Okay in this country, i don't think it's really that simple. Women and Men both have their own fair share of issues to overcome.

Women's Right's  issues that needs to be addressed

Equal Pay: While i  recongize flaws within the argument here, i am in favor of transparency to address issues like this and do whatever we can to fix any pay gaps not just among genders but races as well.

Aboriton: While i see it as also a benefit for men , it is no doubt a  issue for women pirmairy. I'm against the Conservative efforts to restrict a women's right to choose with her own body.

Contraception: I think it's extremely fucked up and hypocritical that a country can subsidize Viagra without any issue but there's still an issue with Brith Control.



Men's Right's issues that should also be adressed.

Prison sentence: I think even you would agree that the fact men get 40% more prison time for the exact same crime as a woman is a major ineqaulity. I personally don't care about  any criminal and if they're fucked in the ass in prison, they often had it coming but the fact a man gets more time because he's a man is no different than a Black man getting more time because he's black.

Child Custody : That's another form of inequality that has been present over the years. A man is dsicmrinated far more often within child custody affairs than women, that should also be fixed.

Domestic Violence Protection: Men going on record have almost the same level of domestic violence against them as women being if they're within a straight  relationship or gay relationship and yet a man can't get the same protection from domestic abuse as a woman. Meaning for example, if a gay man was abused by his boyfriend, he can't get the same protections as a woman. Even if  the abuse towards straight men is still a minotry compared to Women, we should be fighting to protect the rights of minortes to give the same status as majorettes that's how a true democracy works.

Issues that affect both men  and women


Gender Roles: I think combating Gender Roles is more of a issue with both sexes but  it often affects women more and i'm not talking about small issues like Barabie or Trasnfromrers, i'm talking about the far bigger issue of Slut Shamming or Vitcim  Blaming.  Personally as you know i hate sexual double standards. I don't think it's okay for someone to laugh at a man having his nuts chopped off while being pissed at someone making the same joke towards women's breasts. I don't think it's okay that a male pedophila get's righftully demonized but a woman pedophile gets less demonization( They're both Pedophiles and deserve just as much scorn) and most importantly, i don't think it's right that a woman who sleeps with mupilte men is villifed but a man that does the same is praised.


Manadatory Draft Service  : I think this is sexist towards both men and women really but it seems to affect men more. A man like you and me can be mandatory drafted into a war but a woman can't. Isn't that some bullshit ? I'm pretty sure if you're a Feminist, you would agree with the idea that this is a Unisex issue. I personally don't know  wheter it's sexist towards men because it treats men as dispoasble objects and nothing more but brainless muscle that exist to protect or sexist towards women because it treats women as incapable of fighting wars like men. Given the history of great women in the battlefield like Joan'D Arc, it's inexcusable that in a age where physical strength is entirely irrelevant this age that we judge who's qualified  for the battlefeild based on physique or gender.

Really i think we can both agree that these are issues that should be addressed. If you're all for eqaulity then, fine i'm with you. We might have a small disagreement on what extent the problem is but we at least are on the same page overral and really i think a much bigger problem and the real cause of the inequalites in our lifetime is  corrupt government .

I personally think that at least in the west, i call myself a Egalitarian because i really wish not to associate myself with either the fringe Feminists or the fringe MRA's even though i do allign
myself with Sex Positive Feminists and  some MRA types that actually point out valid criticisms regarding inequality among Men and more than happy to lash out against Fringe groups on both sides.

Now for outside the west, i think that's where Feminism isn't optional but necessary.There are still countries where women lack equal rights to men. In Pakistan, a teenage girl was nearly assassinated for committing the "crime" of attending school. In India, a woman died after being brutally gang-raped in a bus, with one of her rapists having penetrated her with an iron rod, while her rapists were excused by the justice system ( BTW that's a true Rape Culture). In the Congo, women are raped so frequently that rape is considered "cultural," while in Mexico, women have been the target of systematic violence, or "feminicide." In all of these countries, women suffer oppression and inequality under real patriarchy. It is these places where feminism is required most yet doesn't exist. I think that's where those like yourself would  be much more needed at as well as myself.

Really to me, i see the Patriarchy in the west on life support that's only being kept alive by fringe conservatie groups that are in themselves are in a declining state and in order to successfully decapitate the last remnants of Patriarchy, we destroy the  few things that are actually a problem, not bitch about  Video Games or that crap but at the same time, we must be careful to to replace that said Patriarchy with a Matriarchy and really just say fuck you to any form of  hierarchy or Sexual Apartheid.


"The whole point of anarchism is the elimination of hierarchies, right? "

Agreed and to replace that said Hierarhcy with a fair government that is actually meant to protect human rights and vaules it's people and protect them and unless you plan to fund a worldwide Revolution( Which i'm actually all for), there's not much we can do at this point outside our own country.  We just have to be louder.
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Robotic-Mind Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014
Yes.

YES.

YES.
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Lindachan Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014
Hahaha! Oh really liked this one! Reminds me of some people here in sweden, both guys and girls, that never go out and actually do somthing, they would probably die if their internet went out - where else could they blabber out their cheap terms they've learnt at some stupid feminist bookcircle.
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BoboMcGraw Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014
Yup.
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Valendale Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I don't know, I don't necessarily agree with the notion that this stuff is wasted on the internet. I think an individual conversation may not have any measurable value, but taken as a whole, attitudes shift and cultures change one face palm at a time.
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AshZeCat Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015
I'd disagree. There's nothing better for a movement than actual boots in the public square in real life.
While I agree with a lot of the points of the side against Gamergate, when I look at people like Sarah Butts and A Man In Black with their pathological obsession with GG, akin to Jordan Owen's pathological obsession with Anita Sarkeesian, I just think, why? Why bother? Why are you wasting your time on this? Could you imagine how much they could get done if they weren't so concerned about what a floating skull and an internet aristocrat had to say about some person on the internet?
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Valendale Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
When I posted the comment it wasn't even a thing, the internet will always have regressive and reactionary forces like that but generally after much struggle they get pushed into their own little insular ghettos like Stormfront and Avoiceformen and 4chan, the rest of the internet forgets they exist and they dwindle away in obscurity with a few opportunists just exploiting them as a niche demographic for easy money.

Overall the internet has been a force for good, in a world where google can debunk any bullshit claim and entire encyclopedias of information are at our fingertips and leftist ideas tend to be more compelling and more virally spread, generally people become more progressive and more secular over time with internet access, and despite all the alarming headlines about how technology "makes us stupid" IQ averages have only gone up in areas with high levels of internet access.
www.reuters.com/article/2010/0…

Basically what I'm saying is that the internet is like an acne covered teenager that has occasional rage tantrums, still listens to NU Metal, and gets randomly obsessed with porn and trends, but constantly matures.
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AshZeCat Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015
I think it's generally been good, but I think it absolutely has its downsides. I feel a large number of people see it as a replacement for IRL activism.
One thing I've learned is that SJWs really don't exist IRL. And honestly, neither do MRAs really either. I've almost never encountered either in my real life experience.

While ideas and movements spread easily with the internet, they tend to be very short-lived.

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Oh, and about 4chan, the GG folk left 4chan because m00t was sick of their shit and started cracking down for once. They're now on 8chan.

And honestly, 4chan was alright until /pol/ "Red-Pilled" the site and every thread became a variation of "muh heritage" or "muh vidja" or something like that.
Before /v/ became known as /pol/ Lite, it was known for being a video game board where no one liked or played video games.
And besides, the other boards such as /co/ (comics and cartoons), /hr/ (high-res photography), /ck/ (cooking), and /y/ (yaoi), were certainly alright. Even /b/ was actually amusing sometimes. You just had to deal with people throwing around the word fag all the time, but I didn't mind tbh.

As for 8chan, since it's made up of 4chan defectors, it's pretty much all /pol/ including their version of /co/ which is mostly them being upset about minorities in their cartoons and comics.
And /furry/ has some of the saddest examples of the furry fandom around. Though /cow/ (lolcows) is honestly kind of fun to look at for a few minutes.
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Valendale Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I think in many ways the internet helps people organize activism that otherwise would have been impossible. I mean look at the example of Occupy, or the borderline revolution that's happening in spain, or the communes that are cropping up in Germany based on social networking sites that turn into organizations at the local level, or the effective use of the internet by Syriza.

Some may use it as an alternative to real life activism, but how much more activism happens because people's eyes have been opened to things they otherwise would have never seen, and because the internet allows them to see that it's happening and where it's happening and plan to be a part of it when it happens? And haven't people always sat around and talked about stuff or read about it in the paper or seen it on the news and stayed home or at a pub rather than actually getting out into the streets? I think the internet just makes that more likely to be productive in their idleness because at least then they be fighting the culture war in ways that were impossible before, and growing in ways they couldn't before, and can more easily become informed and find ways to be active and find out about stuff when it's going down.
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AshZeCat Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015
That's a good point. But there's also the danger of being misinformed.
I'm sure a lot of people who would otherwise be with us are now focused on the Illuminati and other conspiracy bull.
Information can spread, but so can misinformation.

Stuff like Men's Rights really couldn't exist without the internet.
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Valendale Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
That's true but misinformation has always been a problem, people used to get their information from propaganda videos, sanitized history books full of propaganda, outdated science books, and quacks who couldn't be fact checked. Now any bullshit claim can be checked and scrutinized and criticized and people can slowly become inoculated against bullshit. Illuminati cranks of the sort that follow Alex Jones would be chasing alien abductions and ranting about satanic conspiracies anyway, at least on the internet they can run into opposition and have their insanity checked, at least until they hit the block button.

The MRA's represent a reactionary tendency that's always been there, mostly the sort of right wing pseudo"libertarian" that read Rothbard before the internet was cool, right now they're having a backlash because of how bad they're losing the culture war, eventually they'll be driven off to the dark corners of the internet with their friends in StormFront (seriously there are already MRA's promoting pro-fascist revisionism, which is a natural fit with all their evopsych bullshit) and become so toxic that they can't show their face in public without being driven back into their caves, before long the only MRA's anyone will actually see are parody trolls doing it for pure shock value.
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AshZeCat Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2015
Like how a lot of SJWs are actually trolls?
I've sometimes seen people on /pol/ and /cow/ plan fake hashtag campaigns, like the infamous #EndFathersDay as a way to turn people away from feminism.
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RednBlackSalamander Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, there's a difference between using the internet as a tool for social/political agitation, and obsessing over the minutiae of political correctness while the rest of the world goes to hell. Unfortunately, the latter is quite common in some communities.
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Bentheechidna Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2014
*coughcoughtumblrcoughcough*
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Valendale Featured By Owner May 8, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
True.
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